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TAN KIN LIAN FIRES BACK: “WHAT’S WRONG WITH LOOKING AT PRETTY GIRLS, THEY PREFER ATTENTION”

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Following the uproar over Singapore presidential candidate Tan Kin Lian’s repeated Facebook posts about “pretty girls”, the Association of Women for Action and Research (AWARE) issued a statement saying that recording women in public without their consent, posting about pretty girls and commenting on their appearance isn’t light amusement, but an act of objectifying women.

Tan Kin Lian then responded on his Facebook page and website, rejecting AWARE’s “allegations and insinuations”, and said that they have lost the respect of many people for being “involved in gutter politics, and in a smearing campaign” targeting him.

Tan Kin Lian’s website statement

A smear campaign against TKL

I was the target of a smear campaign over the past few days. 

Someone sent a few screen shots of my Facebook posts over the past 10 years to the mainstream media. These posts were about “pretty girls” that I met at the shops, on the jogging path or at a mall. The sender was said that she felt uneasy about these posts. 

I thought initially that it was the view of a single person and that the mainstream media should not blow it up. I was wrong. 

It is now clear to me that it is a concerted effort by an attack group that went all out to smear me. This group involves an attack team from a political party that is now backing my strongest opponent. The editors of the mainstream media is also part of this smear effort. 

The concerted effort later involved a woman right’s organization and a comment by the presidential election committee. The mainstream media wrote up the episode to make me look very bad.

A fair and impartial mainstream media would have realized that these posts would have been seen by several hundreds of thousand people over the years and that most people who consider them to be light hearted and non-offensive. It is dishonest for the media to portray them negatively.

Many of my supporters were concerned about the negative impact on my campaign. Some of them pledged to work doubly hard to overcome this handicap. Many others said that this is clearly a malicious and unjustified smear effort.

Let me say a few words about “building trust” and “uniting the people”. 

The government uses these words as their goals. But these are words, because their actual deeds are clearly different. Many people said that their deeds do not match their words. They do not trust the hollow words.

The government leaders cannot build trust when they continue to act in a dishonorable and malicious way. They cannot unite the people when they go all out to attack, in an underhand way, the reputation of the people whom they consider to be their opponents. I am not even their opponent. 

All along, I have said that I respect my top opponent. It appears to me now that he is involved in this smear campaign. If this is the case, I would change my mind about him, and would now consider him to be unfit to be the president of Singapore. I hope that he will say a few honest words, about this matter, to regain my respect and the trust of the people of Singapore.

In spite of this bad incident, I still pledge to work with the government, if I am elected as the president. I will continue my effort to influence the government to change their policies so that the people of Singapore can have a better life. My goals are to bring down inflation, make housing affordable and jobs secure. 

Tan Kin Lian

Tan Kin Lian’s Facebook responses

I totally reject AWARE’s allegations and insinuations that social media posts I have made “objectify” women.

I do not objectify women since I have many in my family. I have been happily married to my loving wife for nearly 50 years.

We have been faithful to each other through the years and no tinge of infidelity or scandal has ever attached to my marriage.

I have two wonderful daughters and a son. Together, they have given me and my wife three grand-daughters and two grandsons.

I made those social media posts openly and I invite the public to judge for themselves whether they objectify or denigrate women in any way.

I am also hugely disappointed in the mainstream media and irresponsible alternative media for attempting to make a mountain out of a molehill. This is gutter politics at its worst.

Calls were made for a clean and fair contest but it appears that the establishment are keen to win at all cost.

I have faith that my fellow Singaporeans will not allow our electoral system to be debased by scurrilous attacks.

Tan Kin Lian

Many supporters asked me to ignore the malicious comments, from individuals and organizations, and to focus on my campaign.

I ask my supporters to reply to these malicious posts and call them out for being malicious and petty minded. They can attack other people, but they should be ready to be attacked.

Alternatively, you can also politely tell them that TKL’s posts are light hearted. It is quite natural to appreciate people, both males and females, who take a lot of trouble to look attractive. They deserve to be complimented.

I prefer to compliment females and leave the males to be complimented by the opposite gender.

Tan Kin Lian

I believe that AWARE would have lost the respect of many people, including me, for being involved in gutter politics, and in a smearing campaign. I ask AWARE to act honorably to regain the respect that it had lost.

Tan Kin Lian’s Facebook live response

@sgprimememesters Tan Kin Lian respond to comments about his Facebook posts on pretty girls. #presidentialelection #pe2023 #Singapore ♬ original sound – sgpmo

GIRL REFUSES TO SLEEP WITH BF, USES DATING APPS IN FRONT OF HIM WHEN GOING OUT

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A netizen shared how he is dating a girl who openly uses dating apps in front of him when they’re together and refuses to sleep with him.

He added that she would rather give her virginity to a sugar daddy for money than to him.

Here is the story:

“What should I do with my GF who uses dating apps while we’re together?

I’m a 160cm guy, got rejected by females way too many times and it’s hard for me to even find a girl who likes me back.

But well, I somehow managed to find a girl who agreed to date me but she openly uses dating apps in front of my face and often talks about her chats with the guys on there to me.

She would ask me what she should reply to them and even screenshot their chats and laugh about them to me.

She would swipe guys in front of me and almost every swipe was a match. My friends told me to break up with her but how could I, when I really want some affection from a girl and it took me so long to finally get a girl?

Breaking up isn’t an option, because as long as she’s willing to stick with me, I’m willing to do anything, even if it means enduring seeing her use dating apps and sugar daddy websites.

She said it’s because I don’t have money to spend on her, so she has to search for sugar daddies.

I swear this isn’t a troll because I know it sounds ridiculous – but she’s a virgin and doesn’t want to sleep with me. She would rather give her virginity to sugar daddies for the money. (she’s not even poor so idk why?)

She even told me “you no money what, unless you have money then you don’t come to talk to me about it”.

I feel hurt but I can’t tell her off because she told me “It’s my choice if I wanna use dating apps, you can’t control me. If you wanna date me, you have to accept that I’m gonna use tinder and I WILL continue to use tinder just so you know.”

She’s obviously threatening to break up if I try to control her…. and I can’t break up with her because I really like her and it’s not like I have other options…..

She’s pretty, fun to be with and although she doesn’t treasure me as much as I treasure her, I don’t want to lose her just because she is still on the lookout.”

Editor’s note: You deserve better bro, she’s clearly using you for the free meals and etc.

MAN’S DAUGHTER BROKE GLASSES, SAYS “ITS ACCIDENT” & REFUSE TO PAY

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I’ll preface this by saying that I am a widower with 2 kids. I recently got back to work and since I work nightshifts, I had to get the kids a babysitter (they’re at school during the day and my sister stays with them) I was able to find a babysitter with the help of a co-worker and things have been going pretty well except for a few days ago.

The babysitter called me while I was at work to tell me that my 9-year-old daughter broke her glasses, I got home, heard both sides of the story and came to the conclusion that it was in fact an accident.

But the babysitter said my daughter broke them intentionally after she refused to let her outside late in the evening. I asked my 11-year-old daughter and she said the babysitter’s story is accurate but since she and her sister have always had a bad relationship, I figured she lied to set her sister up.

My 9 year old daughter cried and said she didn’t mean it and it was an accident. I apologized to the babysitter for the misunderstanding but she insisted there was no misunderstanding and then asked me to pay her for a pair of new glasses. I was taken aback by her request and told her I thought we talked this out and rolled it out as an accident but she insisted it wasn’t an accident.

I apologized but refused and said it was unfair to expect me to pay, especially since she didn’t pay attention to keeping her glasses safe regardless of whether it was an accident or not.

The babysitter argued with me then started crying swearing that my daughter broke them to get back at her. My 11-year-old daughter sided with her but my 9 year old said she is only siding with the babysitter for her own benefits.

The girls started fighting and I ended up telling the babysitter to leave. she got my co-worker involved and she said I should take responsibility and pay the babysitter for new glasses since she can not afford them being a broke uni student and in need of glasses. I apologized but refused to pay, my co-worker got upset and shamed me for condoning my younger daughter’s actions and treating the babysitter poorly when she’s the victim in this situation.

It’s been days and the babysitter is still wanting me to pay for new glasses but I feel like she’s trying to use the fact that I’m in dire need of help and is hoping to get extra money out of my pocket.

AWARE SLAMS TAN KIN LIAN’S FACEBOOK POSTS ABOUT “PRETTY GIRLS”, SAYS IT’S NOT FUNNY

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Following the uproar over Singapore presidential candidate Tan Kin Lian’s repeated Facebook posts about “pretty girls”, the Association of Women for Action and Research (AWARE) has since issued a statement on the elections, according to Channel NewsAsia.

AWARE said in their statement that recording women in public without their consent, posting about pretty girls and commenting on their appearance isn’t light amusement, but an act of objectifying women.

They said that such acts reduce the women solely to their appearances for his personal entertainment.

Tan Kin Lian previously addressed the concerns when speaking to the media, stating (SIC):

“ah.. most of the people says it is quite, err… liked, err quite enjoyable. That is how I build, err… my err… people to be interested. There would be a few people who are feel uncomfortable, ahhh but that is a very small minority. That’s a very small minority, majority actually find that to be quite err… err quite okay, err quite quite fun.”

AWARE S’pore’s full statement

Statement on the Presidential Elections 2023

August 21st, 2023

We share the public’s concerns that a candidate, who has a history of objectifying women, has been cleared to participate in the upcoming Presidential Elections.

Consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent, or commenting about their appearance isn’t merely a matter of personal preference or light “amusement”. It’s an act of objectifying women, reducing them solely to their appearances for their personal entertainment. Such behaviour from anyone in or aspiring to a position of influence suggests that it’s acceptable to trivialise women and overlook their myriad abilities and contributions.

But here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement. It signifies that these views and behaviours are not just acceptable, but perhaps even acceptable enough for a potential presidency.

Do we want a society where behaviours that objectify half its population get a tacit nod? Or do we push for a nation that evaluates every individual beyond the surface level, acknowledging their full worth and potential? Our President should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be.

We urge the Presidential Election Commission to thoroughly consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future. The assessment process should not only take into account financial and management qualifications but also wider societal impacts to ensure our leadership truly upholds the values of respect, equality, and dignity for all Singaporeans.

GIRL POK POK IN BED WITH HER NEW BF, ACCIDENTALLY FARTED & IS HORRIFIED

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Accidentally farted when I was f-ing my new boyfriend and I’m mortified.

And to add on, it’s was the type of fart where you come close to pooping. Like the poop was about to come out when I was farting but I managed to hold the poop in before it came out.

He was really nice about it and mostly just thought it was funny, but did want to take a break because he ended up getting soft because of it. :/

I’ve been sleeping with several men (my exes) for about 4 years now, and this is the first time something like this has ever happened to me.

We’ve only been official for 2 months, and I’m usually so careful early on. I don’t know what happened to be honest. I’m shocked. never even farted in non-bedroom situations around him.

It seems like this is also not even that common… :/ Which makes me feel weird/gross

Netizens’ comments

  1. I did this with my BF. I was so mortified but he laughed it off. We are married now for 8 years. It’s okay. People fart all the time during it. Just laugh it off and have some fun.
  2. Honestly he probably just got soft because of laughing. Its not a big deal.
  3. Just laugh it off, it happens. My wife has queefed in my face eating her out several times. Many other random bodily noises have happened. If you can laugh it off together you’ll be just done. It isn’t always unicorns and rainbows.
  4. This one time I accidently farted in a restaurant and I thought no one heard cause the music was loud. It turns out the business wasn’t playing music and I just had my headphones in so everyone heard the bomb I let out.
  5. It happens, I am married for almost 29 years. It happens. Sounds like your boyfriend responded nice.

WOMAN SAYS SHE’S DOING BF A FAVOR BY GIVING BIRTH, AFTER THAT “OBLIGATION COMPLETE”

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I don’t think want to marry this girl.

I’m getting married on two months. And this week I think all the red flags I ignored seem to be hitting me in the face.

Firstly, since we got engaged she has become obsessed with finding conflict in my family and trying to get me to always take her side. I’ve already had two serious allegations between her and my family. They removed their blessing and I had to fight to get it back.

Secondly, she seems to think that it’s having a kid is a favour for me and once she gives birth her obligation is complete and she has no financial obligation. She claims that it’s on me after that.

She earns 6 figures and wants to carry on working but only contribute to the mortgage and not the child’s financial status. AND I just finished school and made a career change so I’m literally earning half as much as her at this point.

I’m seriously lost as things seem to be going from bad to worse.

Netizens’ comments

  1. When in doubt, get out
  2. When in doubt, pull out.
  3. Don’t put it in and we all win!
  4. When uncertain, close the curtain.
  5. When there’s heat, just beat your meat.
  6. When in doubt go without.
  7. When in doubt, go to her mom and shout
  8. When in doubt, jump out
  9. When I’m doubt, send her out!
  10. I don’t think I want you to marry this girl.
  11. You guys should be in agreement about the financial situation before marrying 100%. A lot of women want to be stay at home mothers, alot want careers, that should be something that’s discussed before marriage/kids. I always said If I ever had kids, I wouldn’t work either afterwards, but that’s something that needs to be discussed.
  12. If you’re getting married realistically who’s paying for what shouldn’t be such an issue, you guys are a team, but again this needs to be discussed with her then.
    If you’re planning to have a kid that’s not something to leave up in the air. Are you guys going to split parenting duties/housework 50/50? Is she taking maternity leave or are you? These things are serious decisions that need to talked about between the two of you. And if they don’t add up, you aren’t meant to be together.

MAN WANTS REVENGE ON CHEATING GF, PIAK PROSTITUTE & MADE HER WEAR GF’S CLOTHES

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I slept with a prostitute that was wearing my (now ex) girlfriend’s clothes

I found out 2 months ago that my girlfriend cheated on me with one of her co workers. When I confronted her about it she immediately started apologizing saying that it was just a one time thing and that she was sorry.

Being the dumb person that I am I said that I forgave her (even though I didn’t really) because this was my first actual relationship.

I tried my hardest to get over it, but deep down I couldn’t shake the feeling of disgust.

Fast forward to yesterday I decided that it’s time to just break up with her, but I would get my revenge first so I hired a prostitute the next day while my girlfriend was working.

I don’t know how this idea even came to me, but when i met up with prostitute, I asked if she could put on my gfs underwear and one of her dresses.

She asked why but I just told her it was an interest of mine. After finishing and the prostitute left, I piled the clothes on my girlfriend’s bed with the used condom at the very top. I’m now back at my parents and waiting for her to finish work.

Netizens’ comments

  1. When a psycho cheats on a psycho…
  2. If I came home to my clothes on the bed and a condom on top of them – I would never come to the conclusion “oh my boyfriend that I cheated on hired a prostitute, asked her to wear my clothes, sent her home and dropped the condom on top to break up with me”..
    What I would definitely wonder is “did my boyfriend wear my clothes while I’m away and touched himself and he forgot to put them away?”
  3. He very clearly didn’t think this through lol

GIRL’S SIAO-ON CO-WORKER “DISGUSTED” THAT SHE DOESN’T COME TO WORK 45 MINS EARLY

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My coworker is pressuring me to start 30+ minutes before my actual start time

I work in hospitality, specifically hotel hospitality and we recently had a meeting regarding “handovers” and how we should show up a little early to ensure that we can get up to speed before our shift starts and the other staff can depart from their shift on time.

Don’t get me wrong, great idea and my manager specifically said it should only be 5-10 minutes which im more than happy to do.

However, a couple of days after that meeting. My coworker kept looking at me in a disgusting way, which i ignored. This went on for a few more days before she eventually took me into one of our vacant meeting rooms and said “Me and (the manager) are upset that you are not committed to the handover schedule we set in last weeks meeting..” and begins berating me for not showing up “At least 30-45 minutes before shift”.

For those who have worked in Hotel hospitality before, you know that even on a bad day. There isnt 30-45 minutes of stuff to catch up on.

I explained this to her and how in the meeting the manager even said 5-10 mins was more than enough. She then got angry and frustrated and exclaimed “I will be reporting this to (the manager)”.

Basically saying that my manager wasn’t upset with me, she was just saying it to make me feel more pressured.

I’m really unsure what to do now. Luckily i have a few days off to think and ask you guys. But i really am unsure what my next action should be.

Netizens’ comments

  1. Unless they want to pay you for that time it doesn’t belong to them. Put this in writing to your manager and get confirmation in writing about the start and handover time.
  2. Don’t start one minute sooner than they are willing to pay you. If you get it in writing that they want you to start working 10 minutes before shift make sure you track all that extra time on your end since they would legally owe you money for that time.
  3. Do not work for free..
  4. First, confirm that your manager said what she claims the manager said. Don’t let your coworker pretend to be an intermediary. Go right to the source.

WOMAN BOUGHT TRIAL FACIAL TREATMENT, END UP KENA PSYCHO INTO BUYING PACKAGE

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Rant on hardselling

Initially purchased a trial facial treatment and ended up buying a package.

On my first visit they made me try their laser therapy for free, said its a promotion and then proceed to hard selling me at the end of the session to add on the laser therapy. I rejected.

On my second visit they did not hard sell anything.

On my third visit, their consultant came into the treatment room before the facial even started and said she wanted to examine my skin.

She then started to go about how bad my dark eye circles and my neck were (due to eczema) and then tried to hard sell me for extra eye and neck treatments. I kept rejecting and kept saying no i don’t want any additional add ons. She kept telling me “I’m just sharing with you, its okay if you don’t want to buy, just think about it” Then why does she still keep trying to convince me when I already said NO?

During the facial session the beautician kept subtly trying to point out my dark eye circles and neck issues. I bet the skin consultant told the beautician to point it out again during the facial treatment so it will convince me to purchase.

After the session the consultant was there again asking me if I would like to add on. I said no and changed the topic to book my next appointment and said I have to leave. But she is still there trying to convince me to purchase and even suggested me to purchase just one session to try out because her words are just words and I wont know until I tried. I said maybe next time then I walked out.

I am seriously so sick and tired of their hard selling and I still have many sessions to go. I deeply regret that I fell into the trap and purchased the package in the first place. In fact I do not even look forward to my facial treatments and instead dread them because I’m afraid of the hard selling every session. It’s so irritating when I just want a time to relax.

I know it is part of their job and they want to increase their sales but can’t they put themselves into the shoes of their customers? No means no. Stop it. Argh.

If even saying no doesn’t work what else can I do?

FAMILY BOOKED GRAB, FARE STATED AS $41.50 BUT DRIVER ASKED FOR EXTRA MONEY

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Are Grab drivers allowed to ask for more money than stated on the app?

So my family had a few days holiday in Singapore and needed to be brought to the airport so we booked a Grab. We optioned for pay cash cause we wanted to use up our Singapore money.

Grab driver picks us up, asks how many people. We say 3. We booked a 6 seater car cause we had a few big luggage that wouldn’t fit into a 4 seater car. Then says it will be $10 more.

So now it’s $51.50 but as stated on the app the price is $41.50?

Are they allowed to do this? Not Singaporean so not sure.

Netizens’ comments

  1. Not allowed, you don’t need to pay more than is stated on the app. Please report the driver to Grab, he’s trying to pull a fast one on unsuspecting tourists unfortunately.
    Did you request a receipt proving your claim?
    Don’t report to GRAB but Singapore Tourism Board instead for more bite.
    The matter will be seriously looked into and escalated than being swept under the rug.
    Don’t let such sneaky and unscrupulous behaviour get away.
  2. This happened to me too!!! About a month ago, was traveling from Changi – we had 3 pax n 4 large luggages n 1 medium luggage. We ordered 6 seater grab. Upon reaching the airport n looking at our luggages, The driver told us that he needed to add on charges for grab 6 premium as we had a lot of luggage.
    He kept saying grab 6 is for 2 luggages. I told him that we had never had this issue before n we have taken grab 6 with the same people n luggages a few times before.
    He said HIS CAR IS PREMIUM SO HE HAS TO ADD ON THE CHARGES. It was 1am & we were tired so i agreed – thinking that the add on charges are maybe $10 or something. Turns out it was $30!!
    He only informed us of the amount on the road. We had no choice but to accept it. He made me reply him to say noted but what else could we have done – stop at the roadside?!
    I submitted a feedback to grab n requested that they refund me the $30. Initially they refused to do it – their excuse was that the driver had informed me. So I repeated the story. Then they refunded me. So it’s actually not uncommon – i don’t think it’s an outright scam, seems like grab was ok with the driver doing that. They are allowed to add on charges under “others”.
  3. No. App price is app price. Having said that, this is why I don’t pay cash. Happened to me once on Malaysia Grab also because “no change” (I paid cash, yes. Was also a tourist tryna use my cash, yes) – it wasn’t as big an amount as SGD10 but rather the principle of abiding by app pricing. I switched to credit card after that.