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GUY ASKED GIRL IF SHE HAS ADHD BECAUSE SHE NEVER MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT

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I had a guy at a club ask me if I had ADHD because I didn’t “maintain proper eye contact with him while he’s speaking.”

He was dead serious. He then proceeded to go on a random rant about how he hates girls with BPD, and how his ex girlfriend had it.

This dude took my hand and raised it in the air, said “this is what girls with bpd do to you, they lift you up and love you to gain your trust…” then he dropped my hand, “and then they destroy you and manipulate you into hating yourself.”

I told him I bet he didn’t think I had BPD when he hit on me, his response was: “well I dated a girl with bpd so I know what your kind of people are like.”

I then told him I had a girlfriend and he straight up said “I don’t believe in that. I don’t believe in girls dating girls or guys dating guys.

I walked away lol. Talking to him felt like I was speaking to a sociopath. The level of entitlement was unreal.

To make things even worse, he went up to my friend later (assuming since his advancements didn’t work with me), and tried hitting things off with her.

She obviously turned him down for saying those things to me and he was genuinely confused. My friend asked him to step away because he was all up in her space, he responded by accusing her of having OCD because she’s “afraid of germs.”

INVESTING IN LOCAL PROPERTY, YEAH OR NAY? : COST AND RETURNS

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In a rapidly changing property market, staying informed about the latest developments is crucial. Singapore has recently witnessed significant changes in its property regulations, with the Buyer’s Stamp Duty (BSD) and Additional Buyer’s Stamp Duty (ABSD) undergoing revisions in 2023. As a potential property buyer or investor, it’s essential to grasp the implications of these changes to make informed decisions regarding property investments. In this article, we will delve into the details of these measures and explore alternative investment options in light of these developments.

The Rising Costs of Property Ownership

Purchasing a property in Singapore has become more financially demanding due to recent cooling measures. Lower loan-to-value ratios and higher buyer stamp duties have increased the capital outlay required for property investment. Moreover, property ownership is often considered an illiquid asset, emphasizing the need for prudence and a thorough assessment of risks and returns.

Unstoppable Property Price Trends

Despite various cooling measures, inflation, and a doubling of mortgage interest rates in the previous year, the demand for homes in Singapore remains strong. This continued demand reflects the confidence of both Singaporeans and international investors in the country’s property market.

Buyer’s Stamp Duty (BSD) Changes

One significant change introduced on February 15, 2023, is the revision of the Buyer’s Stamp Duty (BSD). Under the new regulations, the portion of the value of residential properties exceeding $1.5 million but not exceeding $3 million will be taxed at a rate of 5%, while properties exceeding $3 million will face a tax rate of 6%, up from the previous rate of 4%.

For non-residential properties, the portion of the property value exceeding $1 million but not exceeding $1.5 million will be taxed at 4%, while properties exceeding $1.5 million will incur a tax rate of 5%, previously at 3%. While the increase in BSD may not significantly affect properties below $2 million, it becomes substantial for more luxurious properties.

Recent Cooling Measures Timeline

To put these changes into context, let’s take a brief look at the recent cooling measures:

  1. September 2022: The government introduced measures to moderate housing demand for resale HDB flats and encourage responsible borrowing in light of rising interest rates. These measures included tightening the maximum loan limit for HDB loans and increasing TDSR and MSR calculations by 0.5 percentage points.
  2. December 2021: Additional cooling measures raised ABSD rates, tightened the Total Debt Servicing Ratio (TDSR) threshold, and lowered the Loan-To-Value limit (LTV) for loans.
  3. April 27, 2023: An additional round of cooling measures was announced, primarily focused on increasing the Additional Buyer’s Stamp Duty (ABSD). These revisions aimed to moderate investment demand and address the tight housing market for both owner-occupation and rental properties.

Impact on Investment Property Costs

When considering the purchase of an investment property, it’s essential to factor in the upfront costs associated with these measures. For example, for a $2.5 million property, the total upfront cost now amounts to $1,219,600, which includes BSD and ABSD. These costs can significantly affect an investor’s financial planning.

Rental Yield Considerations

If you are considering renting out an investment property, bear in mind that the current home loan rates, which are around 4%, may pose challenges for rental yields to surpass this threshold. Traditionally, rental yields in Singapore have been approximately 2.5 to 3%, unless rental rates experience a significant upward trend and remain elevated.

In conclusion, Singapore’s property market continues to evolve, with recent cooling measures impacting property ownership costs. As a potential buyer or investor, it’s crucial to adapt your strategies to these changes. Stay informed, assess your financial capabilities, and consider alternative investment avenues to make the most out of your investment decisions.


FAQs

  1. What is the Buyer’s Stamp Duty (BSD)? The Buyer’s Stamp Duty (BSD) is a tax levied on property buyers in Singapore. The rate varies depending on the property’s value and type.
  2. How have recent cooling measures affected property prices? Recent cooling measures have increased the upfront costs of property ownership, particularly for high-value properties. This may impact property prices in the market.
  3. Are there alternative investment options for those deterred by rising property costs? Yes, there are alternative investment avenues such as stocks, bonds, and real estate investment trusts (REITs) that allow investors to participate in the property market without owning physical property.
  4. What is the purpose of cooling measures in Singapore’s property market? Cooling measures are implemented to regulate property demand, stabilize prices, and ensure responsible borrowing in the real estate sector.
  5. How can investors adapt to the changing property market conditions? Investors should stay informed about regulatory changes, assess their financial capacity, and explore alternative investments to diversify their portfolios.

SON STOP MOTHER FROM ATTENDING WEDDING FOR INSULTING FIANCEE’S SON

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It’s a stupid thing to ask I know. But my mom’s been an important person in my life and I’m not sure if perhaps I overreacted. I (26m) met my soon-to-be wife Amy (25f) 7 years ago and she has an 11 months old son(Jason) and she broke up with his dad already. I love Jason as my own son and that’s how I see him.

He calls his dad “Dad/Daddy” and me “Pa.” My mom didn’t like the idea of me being with someone who already had a kid with someone else. We fought about that during the first 2 years of the relationship until I threatened to stop talking if she doesn’t accept Amy and Jason in my life. So she let it go and didn’t bring it up ever again.

I proposed 4 months ago. We’re supposed to get married in March. My mon offered to pay for half of the wedding and we accepted. The issue was my mom saying Jason shouldn’t be at the wedding because it would be just as weird as if her ex was there. We were both confused by that logic. Jason’s a huge part of our lives, it’s our wedding so of course he’s gonna be part of it. That was a hard no from both of us.

She tried to bring it up more times until finally she pulled the “I’m paying for your wedding so I’m allowed to decide ” card. That’s the part that got me the most. Is she wanted to use the fact that she’s helping to pay to keep our 8 year old from being there at our wedding. I paid her back the money she gave us for the wedding and told her she’s also not invited. Now she keeps calling crying that I’m her only son and it would be heartless keeping her from being part of this huge milestone in her life.

To her it’s not the same if Jason missed it because he’s a kid not a parent. My family is on my side about her going too far wanting to exclude my son but they do think I’m a bad son if she’s not invited since I already gave her the money back so she has no say in anything. I’m just so mad about it and don’t wanna see her after she tried to control things like that.

Did I do the right thing?

Here are what netizens think:

your mother is acting like a monster to a literal child. Hope she kicks the bucket soon, why would you want such a nasty and hateful person anywhere near your son or your future wife on such an important day? You did the right thing.

My first thought was I would never let her watch my child. If she acts like that to their face, imagine how she would treat him when it’s just her. I’m not suggesting she would physically abuse him, but he definitely wouldn’t enjoy being around her.

He is not and will not be safe around her. She cannot be allowed in his airspace at all, ever. She will do irretrievable harm. Please hear me.

WOMAN LIED ABOUT BEING RAPED BY HER EX-BOYFRIEND AFTER FIGHT, JAILED 5 WEEKS

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22-year-old Chinese national, Zhang Lutian, pleaded guilty to providing false information to a public servant and was sentenced to 5 weeks imprisonment yesterday (2 October).

She had lied about being raped thrice by her ex-boyfriend in order to get back at him following a fight, according to The Straits Times.

What happened?

In April 2021, Zhang Lutian met her former partner on the WeChat messaging platform. Their romantic involvement began in August of the same year, eventually leading to cohabitation at the man’s residence.

The evening of March 9, 2022, witnessed a protracted dispute between the couple, which extended well into the midnight hours, escalating tensions.

At precisely 12:38 am on March 10, 2022, Zhang initiated a call to law enforcement, alleging harm and bleeding inflicted by her former boyfriend.

Responding promptly to the distress call, police officers arrived at the residence. Zhang conveyed to two officers her claim of being a victim of assault by her ex-boyfriend.

Given the gravity of the accusation, a substantial police presence was dispatched to the scene, consisting of 17 officers, including five investigators and four forensic experts.

By 6:30 am that same day, Zhang provided a statement at the Police Cantonment Complex, falsely asserting that her ex-boyfriend had not only physically assaulted her but also raped her on three separate occasions during their relationship.

Zhang reiterated these untrue allegations to the medical officer during her examination.

Consequently, her ex-boyfriend was subjected to a police interview, had his mobile phones confiscated, and had his passport held by authorities.

Additionally, he was required to apply for a special pass to maintain his stay in Singapore. It is worth noting that court documents did not disclose the ex-boyfriend’s nationality or age.

Over a month later, on April 20, 2022, Zhang admitted to fabricating her story to law enforcement and retracted her false statements.

WOMAN’S HUSBAND DOESN’T CARE ABOUT HER B’DAY, TAKES HER FOR GRANTED

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A netizen shared how her husband doesn’t care about her birthday, despite all she does for him on his birthday.

Here is the story:

“My husband didn’t forget my birthday, he just didn’t care.

For his birthdays, I ask him what kind of cake he’d like and either pick it up or make it. I make sure he has time with his friends, I make reservations at restaurants (or during pandemic, pick up his favorite sandwiches or pizzas), I get the beers he likes, presents, and I keep the kids for the whole day so he has time to have be with his friends or play video games.

This year, he said “happy birthday” at 10 am and I solo-parented from 7 am to 11 pm like I do most days. He didn’t forget, he just didn’t care.

Some people seem to think I want some grand affair. The bare minimum would have been fine, and yes he knows I want some recognition for my birthday. He just didn’t do it. I wanted to get it off my chest before talking to him about it because what he doesn’t deserve is a bunch of verbal insults yelled at him in the heat of the moment just because I’m mad.

Also, it doesn’t matter at all what someone else would or would not want for their birthday; I wanted him to show me he cared and he didn’t, and that hurt. I don’t care if you don’t care about your birthday.

We talked and he claimed not to know I felt this way. I told him yes, he did know and he said “Yeah, I guess I’m just tired.” And that was it. I’m going out with my friends this weekend and having a bonfire in their backyard. Whether he comes or not is up to him.”

Editor’s note: Try ignoring his birthday, let him have a taste.

SOLO WINNER FOR $13 MILLION TOTO JACKPOT, MULTI-MILLIONAIRE OVERNIGHT

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In the world of lotteries and dreams, luck often remains elusive for many hopeful participants. However, every so often, a fortunate individual defies the odds and experiences a life-changing moment.

Such was the case on the fateful night of October 2nd when a single ticket holder struck gold, walking away with a staggering S$13,077,918 Toto top prize.

The winning ticket, which forever altered the life of its holder, was purchased from Rangoon Provision Shop at Block 681 Race Course Road.

Singapore Pools result

Mon, 02 Oct 2023Draw No. 3909
Winning Numbers
21012134548
Additional Number
11
Group 1 Prize
$13,077,918
Winning Shares
Prize GroupShare AmountNo. of Winning Shares
Group 1$13,077,9181
Group 2$62,99125
Group 3$1,570690
Group 4$3061,936
Group 5$5036,337
Group 6$2553,754
Group 7$10654,305

Multiple iTOTO units may be sold via the same outlet or through Singapore Pools Account

Group 1 prize and total share amount for Group 1 may differ due to rounding.

Group 1 winning tickets sold at:

  • Rangoon Provision Shop – 681 Race Course Road #01-309 ( 1 QuickPick System 8 Entry )

Group 2 winning tickets sold at:

  • Rangoon Provision Shop – 681 Race Course Road #01-309 ( 1 QuickPick System 8 Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 QuickPick System 7 Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Ang Mo Kio N2 Branch – Blk 202 Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 #01-1662/1664 ( 1 QuickPick System 7 Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Canberra Branch – Blk 505 Canberra Link #01-02 ( 1 QuickPick System 7 Entry )
  • Tampines Trading 828 – Blk 828 Tampines St 81 #01-234 ( 1 QuickPick System 7 Entry )
  • NTUC FP Hougang Mall – 90 Hougang Ave 10 NTUC Hougang Mall #B1-07 ( 1 QuickPick Ordinary Entry )
  • NTUC FP Sun Plaza – 30 Sembawang Drive #B1-01/02 ( 1 QuickPick Ordinary Entry )
  • NTUC FP Tampines Mall – 4 Tampines Central 5 Tampines Mall #B1-12 ( 1 QuickPick Ordinary Entry )
  • Seng Yeok Chan Agency – Blk 338 Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 #01-1657 ( 1 QuickPick Ordinary Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 QuickPick Ordinary Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 QuickPick Ordinary Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 System 12 Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 System 11 Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 System 7 Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Anchorvale Rd Branch – Blk 308 Anchorvale Rd #01-05 ( 2 Ordinary Entry )
  • Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – – ( 1 Ordinary Entry )
  • iTOTO – System 12
      •  Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – –
      •  Kis Store – 3 Pickering Street #01-49 Nankin Row
      •  7-Eleven Esplanade MRT Station – 90 Bras Basah Road #B1-20/21/22 Esplanade MRT Station
      •  Dawn Florist – 21 Hougang St 51 Hougang Green Shopping Mall #01-04A
      •  Delisia Agency Pte Ltd – 149 Rochor Rd Fu Lu Shou Complex #B1-26
      •  Fatt Chye Heng Trading – Blk 7 Hougang Ave 3 #01-48
      •  Goh Geok Kwee Agency – Blk 84 Redhill Lane #01-356
      •  Nel’s Store – Blk 741 Bedok Reservoir Rd #01-3073
      •  NTUC FP Jurong Point – 63 Jurong West Central 3 #03-01 Jurong Point Shopping Centre
      •  NTUC FP Lorong 4 Toa Payoh – Blk 192 Lor 4 Toa Payoh #01-670/672
      •  NTUC FP Lot 1 Shoppers Mall – 21 Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 Lot 1 Shoppers Mall #B1-03
      •  NTUC FP Tampines Mall – 4 Tampines Central 5 Tampines Mall #B1-12
      •  OCN (Singapore) Pte Ltd – Blk 501 West Coast Drive #01-266
      •  Sheng Siong Senja Close – Blk 643 Senja Close #01-01
      •  Sheng Siong Tanglin Halt Road – Blk 88 Tanglin Halt Rd #01-10
      •  Singapore Pools Bencoolen Branch – 180 Bencoolen Street, The Bencoolen #01-59
      •  Singapore Pools Chinatown Branch – 101 Upp Cross St, People’s Park Centre, #01-12
      •  Singapore Pools Hougang N2 Branch – Blk 211 Hougang St 21 #01-309
      •  Singapore Pools Lor 8 Toa Payoh Branch – Blk 212 Lor 8 Toa Payoh #01-39
      •  Singapore Pools Teban Gardens Branch – Blk 37 Teban Gardens Rd #01-308
      •  Singapore Pools Woodlands N8 Branch – Blk 883 Woodlands St 82 #02-468
      •  Tong Aik Huat – Blk 685 Hougang St 61 #01-160
  • iTOTO – System 12
      •  Singapore Pools Account Betting Service – –
      •  Singapore Pools Woodlands 888 Branch – Blk 888 Woodlands Dr 50 888 Plaza #01-711
      •  7-Eleven Changi – 38-A Changi Rd
      •  Fatt Chye Heng Trading – Blk 7 Hougang Ave 3 #01-48
      •  Goh Geok Kwee (Bukit Merah) – Blk 124 Bukit Merah Lane 1 #01-148
      •  Kim Chwee Trading – Blk 256 Jurong East Street 24 #01-385
      •  Lucky Hill – Blk 112 Bukit Purmei Road #01-209
      •  NTUC FP AMK Hub – 53 Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 Ang Mo Kio Hub #B2-40
      •  NTUC FP The Woodleigh Mall – 11 Bidadari Park Drive #B1-32/33 The Woodleigh Mall
      •  NTUC FP Thomson Plaza – 301 Upp Thomson Rd Thomson Plaza #03-36
      •  Seah Geok Eng Upper Serangoon View – Blk 476D Upper Serangoon View #02-02
      •  Singapore Pools Clementi Town Centre Branch – Blk 446 Clementi Ave 3 #01-183
      •  Singapore Pools Commonwealth Crescent Branch – Blk 116 Commonwealth Crescent #01-135
      •  Singapore Pools Serangoon Central Branch – Blk 254 Serangoon Central Dr #01-209

Prizes not claimed by Sat, 30 Mar 2024 will be channelled to donations and grants managed by the Tote Board.

Source: Singapore Pools

GIRL’S FRIEND CAUGHT HER BF ON TINDER TRYING TO HOOK UP

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A while ago, my friend brought up that she had seen my boyfriend on Tinder, which obviously was cause for concern. This wasn’t the first time there had been hints of infidelity since I would see flirty texts and innuendo pop up on his phone all the time, but he would claim that they were jokes from friends. I haven’t been able to confirm nor deny this statement, that they’re jokes from friends, but it’s still questionable.

When I asked him why he still had a Tinder profile, he said he just opened the app to check if his account was still there. This makes enough sense to me, except he also edited his bio and added more photos, so this wasn’t a quick check to see if his account was still being shown, in addition his account was still up even after so evidently he didn’t delete it.

A while later, when my friend said he’s still on, I asked him why he’s still using the app and he said to make friends, which seemed dubious to me. With that said, he hasn’t been on for the last few weeks, but I think that’s because he broke his phone, rather than because of my concerns.

Later, I had another friend he didn’t know essentially catfish him to see if he would respond and sure enough he did. And from my interpretation, the messages he sent were more than just friendly, with innuendo and everything.

I’ve already brought this all up before and he’s had excuses (the flirty texts are old and from friends, he opened the app to check, he’s just using it to make friends, etc) and through my posts, I’ve come to the conclusion to try and confront him one last time, see what he says.

But my most conclusive piece of evidence is the fact that I catfished him and I don’t know how to reveal that. I’ve already brought up the other pieces of evidence before, but I should’ve saved it all up and presented it at once because by doing it in small chunks, I allowed him to create little lies and time to think about an excuse. So I don’t know how to bring up the older pieces of evidence without coming across as really naggy.

I don’t want to just dump him without any explanation, but I also can’t think of a way to bring up that last piece of info without looking like a complete psycho. In addition, there was some glitch where my friend and I lost the Tinder chats so I don’t even have any screenshots to confront him with.

I’d like to have some evidence just so I can watch him squirm and also make it clear that I knew what was happening. I don’t know, maybe this way he won’t do it to someone else.

WIFE AFRAID RICH HUSBAND WILL FIND A MISTRESS DESPITE GIVING HER EVERYTHING

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I’m posting this knowing I probably sound like the most ungrateful idiot right now and most people would love to live like this but… I hate it.

My husband comes from a wealthy family and is successful in his own right. He likes the “finer things” in life and his entire social circle are either wealthy themselves or have wealthy families funding their lives. We have a huge house, go on multiple vacations, I can buy whatever I want without worrying about the price and I get to be a SAHM.

Yet… I hate this lifestyle.

I grew up poor and seeing how I live now compared to my younger self doesn’t make me feel happy like I thought it would, it makes me feel sick. I see our son and how much my husband spoils him and I feel awful. I hate the house we live in and I miss the tiny home I grew up in. I dread going on vacation with his friends because I have to force an act while I silently cringe at a lot of what’s going on.

The only thing that I’m truly happy about is that my mother gets to live in a level of comfort I never thought I would be able to give her after everything she sacrificed for me growing up.

I find myself avoiding my husband and keeping to myself whenever he’s home and it makes me feel guilty. He does everything to try to make me happy and I don’t understand why I can’t be happy.

I’ve been struggling with this a lot recently and everyday it just gets worse.

We actually had a disagreement earlier today which is what prompted me to finally post this. This disagreement was over his friend being exposed for having a mistress and it made me think about if my behaviour is going to push him to get a mistress and that made me feel sad too.

I don’t know what to do about this or how to speak to him about any of it.

How do you tell your husband that you hate the life he has given you? How do people who suddenly have access to wealth after growing up poor adjust to this life?

WIFE CONTROLS HUSBAND TIME WORSE THAN A PLATOON SERGEANT

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So today we have had the same argument for the 37316517th time and I am really struggling to get my point across.

My wife mentioned that she was going to take a day off in a few weeks to go to the dentist. I said I would take the day off too so that we could spend the morning together and then I would meet my friends in the afternoon.

She casually mentions that she is going to see her aunt after the dentist. I said great, have a good time.

Then she comes in with a guilt trip – It would be nice if you came too, she really enjoys your company, etc … I reminded her that I had said I was busy in the afternoon and we saw her in December so it’s not like I haven’t seen her recently. I would be happy to see her on the weekend but I don’t want to take a day off work for that.

She got annoyed and started trying to push me into going. I felt like I had set a fair boundary regarding my fairly limited free time. Eventually, I gave in because I was trying to work (from home) whilst she was standing in the doorway explaining the 10,000 ways in which I am a bad husband.

If this was a one-off, I’d put it down as a bad experience and move on. But it’s not.

It seems whenever I set aside an afternoon exclusively for me, she takes that as a green light to throw chores in there that didn’t previously exist. Whether it is painting a house, laundry, going to see her family or even just going for a walk.

All things I would happily do if asked … But not after I have explicitly said I am tired / setting aside some time for myself.

The other circumstance is usually her saying that is fine, then proceeding to intentionally taking on a task she cannot do alone so that I have to help and end up feeling guilty so continue to complete with her.

It’s really starting to get to me. She knows I need time to myself to recharge, she knows I gladly do 99% of the things we asks me to do outside of time I have set for myself.

For a bit of context – We don’t have children, I set aside time for myself like this maybe once every six weeks, our day to day domestic duties are fairly evenly split and we both hold up our own end and we regularly see her family with whom I have a good relationship.

How do I effectively communicate this to her? I literally just want some time to myself without that being a green light to guilt me into doing previously unmentioned chores.

SHOULD MEN PAY FOR EVERYTHING IN A RELATIONSHIP, REALITY VS DELUSIONAL MENTALITY

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What are your views on who “should” pay on the first date? This seems to be a hot topic and also a topic touched numerous times before. Tldr; My view is that each person should pay for their OWN share, and neither party is responsible/obligated to pay for the other person’s meal.

1. “The guy should pay because he is a man” – We live in a modern society where girls can earn just as much as guys, no longer in the 18th or 19th century, so why should a guy pay for the lady, who is able to earn just as much or even more than the guy can? Are girls to be treated as equals? Or an inferior gender such that they can’t afford their own meal?

2. “Whoever invites the other person should pay” – I notice that many girls support this view, but yet we all know that guys usually ask the girl out first, and girls usually expect and hope for the guy to make the first move to ask the girl out first. And even when the girl likes the guy, girls would rather “make it very obvious that they’re interested so that the guy will take the hint and ask her out”, instead of asking the guy out themselves. If that’s the case, this is as good as saying “the guy should pay”.

I have another perspective to share with regards to this view. I think whoever invites the other person out for a first date is giving an invitation for both people to MUTUALLY agree that they would like to have a first meetup/date to get to know each other better, and NOT that the person who invites is going to treat a meal or anything. Think about it this way, when you tell your friends “do you want to eat chicken rice together later?”, we instinctively know it is an invitation for both you and your friend to spend quality time together, and instinctively know that each of you are paying for your own share. This is how it should be when you invite someone out for a first date for both of you to mutually get to know each other.

3. “I put on makeup for the date, and makeup is expensive, so if I dress up, of course he should pay for the meal” – Does that mean that if I as the guy, buy a very expensive nice-looking outfit and wear it to the first date, you are obligated to treat me to a very expensive meal since I wore such an exquisite outfit for you to see? Your decision to put on makeup or dress up nicely or not is entirely your call and dependent on how you wish to present yourself, no guy is obligated/responsible to pay (indirectly by paying for your meal) for your fashion/makeup choices.

4. “Guys don’t have to pay, but if he pays it’s bonus points” – What some girls actually mean when you expand on this is, “if he pays for my meal, yes it is bonus points for him, but if he doesn’t, I would get turned off and deduct points and not meet again”. If you get turned off if a guy does not pay, it means your view is not for both to fairly pay their share, but for the guy to pay for your meal.

5. “I’m a traditional woman and so I expect the man to pay just like old times” – If you put these kind of old traditional expectations on a man, then does that mean that in return, you would hold yourself to traditional standards and expectations of a woman as well? Things such as having to obey and serve your husband/boyfriend/date, to cook and clean, to focus on taking care of kids, and not to be going out to work? Because if you expect a man to be traditional and “provide”, then you should be giving what you wish to get as well. Realistically, which woman today actually act the “traditional woman” part despite calling themselves traditional? They just expect that from guys but yet don’t hold themselves to the same “traditional” standards.

Why I think we should (man or woman) pay for our own share on a first date: It is SIMPLY fair, and it comes from a perspective where we both are equal individuals and view each other as such. The man or woman does not need to pay (for the other person’s meal) in order to have an opportunity to get to know the other person, it is simply based upon mutual respect for each other that both are mutually agreeing to meet and explore where things goes romantically. Whether or not anyone (men or woman) treats the other person to a meal or drink, is not a “SHOULD”, but a “WANT”, if it happens.

Also, a first date is for both people to see if there is a connection, meaning a second date is still up for consideration and not confirmed for both people. Girls know this and yet if they still expect the guy to pay for their meal, it just reflects upon how all they’re thinking is about themselves, and not being considerate for the guy and his money, definitely selfish, and a red flag. Some girls also just use guys as a “free meal ticket”.

I hold myself to the same standards that I listed out above. Meaning, I DO NOT expect any woman to pay for my meals even if they ask me out. I do not expect girls to pay for me if I happen to wear an expensive outfit (this goes without saying but yeah). I respect the girl’s time and do not feel entitled to her money.

I think that expecting the other person to pay for your meal (whether you’re a man or woman), is an entitled attitude, and a red flag that people should avoid when finding a partner. As a guy, it seems like girls who have bad upbringing and bad peer influence are more likely to have this entitled attitude. The “yes queen, you deserve better, you deserve more” kind of messages that girls give each other, seem to feed into this whole delusional and entitled mentality that some girls have.

What are your views on this?